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Bronx 
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Considering that officially N and S Korea are still at war will the joint wargames with S-Korea and America be the trigger for the paranoid N-Koreans to strike out?
N-Korea is a country that never has any information to it from the outside world, and can only believe the crap fed to them by the ruling (dictatorship under the name of) communist (oh what a hypocritical mockery) party.
I can only assume that with Colin Powell’s recent visit to China, with these matters being top of the agenda that China will more than likely not back N-Korea militarily … but then you never can trust those commies …
N Korean wrath at war games – BBC News
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I seriously doubt China will ever back NK again
even though the Chinese goverment may still hold up the mask of "Communist Paradise!"
behind it, they are as much western-capitalists as anyone in the US or Europe
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Bah! I hope those evil bastard capitalist yankee scum S Koreans try something! The glorious Peoples Republic of N Korea will beat them again!! ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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Just because China is losing touch with its communist past doesn't mean it won't support North Korea (which is clearly only masquerading as communist, but has an obvious class system). In fact, it's a sure thing that if the US moves troops and carriers into the region, China will back North Korea. This is for two reasons:
1) North Korea and China have strong economic ties.
2) China won't allow US military presence in the region.
China and the US are competing superpowers. Ever wonder why they disagree about the Iraq situation? Not because China has any particular liking to the Hussein regime, but because they aren't exactly swimming in oil either. If the US captures Middle Eastern oil supplies, it literally has a strangehold on the world's economy, and it will be very difficult for Russia and China to remain as superpowers.
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China will not support NK in the way it did during the Korean war, because now it has to much to loose. China has much stronger economic ties with the US.
Noticed how the wargame between the US and SKorea only went ahead after Colin Powell went to China to talk over the subject?
The US government is not by any means going to deal with a reckless paranoid state such as NKorea in the same way in which it is dealing with Iraq, that would be a sure fire way of ensuring the US has to use nukes again.
So what do you suggest is done with a dangerous state such as Korea?
Let them get away with what they want, just like Iraq?
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First, explain to me how Iraq or North Korea are "dangerous states", especially in comparison to an imperialist nation like the US.
Secondly, you ignored part of what I said. North Korea is Eastern Asia, and China wouldn't logically let the US gain a military foothold there again. It is detrimental to their interests.
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in my opinion since one of the resons they used to go into Iraq was, that they are/were a direct threat to the US, in the same since N.K is actually a direct threat, since they do have missles that can reach the west coast of the US, that the US has to do something about them,and to get anything done, probably in the same method as they are doing in Iraq
[ March 24, 2003, 03:58: Message edited by: Teapot ]
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quote:
Originally posted by Hate Your State:
1) North Korea and China have strong economic ties.
2) China won't allow US military presence in the region.
1. Strong economic ties ???? North Korea barly has money to feed themselves what are they buying from China.
2. Where have you been the last many many years. How long has the US had a presence in South Korea, an armistice agreement was signed July 27, 1953, and in Japan since Sept 2nd 1945.
The country was demilitarized, and steps were taken to bring forth “a peacefully inclined and responsible government.” Industry was to be adequate for peacetime needs, but war-potential industries were forbidden. Until these conditions were fulfilled Japan was to be under Allied military occupation. The occupation began immediately under the command of Gen. Douglas MacArthur . A Far Eastern Commission, representing 11 Allied nations and an Allied council in Tokyo, was to supervise general policy. The commission, however, suffered from the rising tension between the USSR and the Western nations and did not function effectively, leaving the U.S. occupation forces in virtual control.
The occupation force controlled Japan through the existing machinery of Japanese government. A new constitution was adopted in 1946 and went into effect in 1947; the emperor publicly disclaimed his divinity. The general conservative trend in politics was tempered by the elections of 1947, which made the Social Democratic party headed by Tetsu Katayama the dominant force in a two-party coalition government. In 1948 the Social Democrats slipped to a secondary position in the coalition, and in 1949 they lost power completely when the conservatives took full charge under Shigeru Yoshida .
Look how Japan turned out. They did pretty well after a government was started up by the US and others and then Japan took over and well they have done pretty damn well.
Check things out a bit Hate Your State before spewing out this stuff. Now if that was you opinion then that is a whole new ball game.
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True, but do you think its worth warring with N. Korea when you weight the losses we might have to endure?
If they can actually reach Cali, goodness how much of it can they blow up anyways?
thats a very populated state...so what other means or what possiblities would you say would be best to do IF we warred with N. Korea?
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I doubt we will mess with N. Korea for a while. Look how long it took the UN not to do anything about Iraq (12 years) and N. Korea just restarted there N.reactor about 2 months a go. So the UN has "Time" in there minds.
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