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United Nations weapons inspectors in Iraq say they have found nearly a dozen empty chemical warheads while searching an ammunition storage depot

Eleven warheads which could be used to carry chemical warfare agents were found at the Ukhaider depot and are currently being examined by experts, a UN spokesman said.

"The warheads were in excellent condition and were similar to ones imported by Iraq during the late 1980s," said Hiro Ueki.

He did not elaborate on the significance of the find, but the UN office in Baghdad has since told the BBC that they did not consider the discovery to be a "smoking gun" at the present time.

A 12th warhead required further evaluation, the UN statement said, noting that this was the inspectors' second visit to the depot, the first being nine days earlier.

Iraq - which has insisted throughout the current crisis that it does not possess chemical weapons - dismissed the find as "old rockets" which had long been forgotten.
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what your opinion on this? do you thing it would justify us going to war?

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but nooooobody cares

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quote:
Originally posted by 2-D:
but nooooobody cares

lol I do. I personally although support war think this is not a smoking gun. We should wait for justification within the terms set out by the UN before we go in.

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we may face the hardest war in the world if we attack. public panic is a hard thing to beat. americans are easy to scare. they could destroy us if we dont tread carfully. terrorists are people with a blind cause and blind people with guns and bombs are dangerous

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There is no way that justifies a war with Iraq.

"we may face the hardest war in the world if we attack. public panic is a hard thing to beat. americans are easy to scare. they could destroy us if we dont tread carfully. terrorists are people with a blind cause and blind people with guns and bombs are dangerous"

This wouldn't be a difficult war to win for the United States, otherwise they wouldn't be initiating it! There is no way that they could "destroy us", and terrorists are not people with a blind cause. These particular terrorists have a very obvious cause, and aside from pleasing Allah, that is to curb American expansionism into their homeland.

[ March 11, 2003, 03:07: Message edited by: Hate Your State ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Hate Your State:
There is no way that justifies a war with Iraq.

"we may face the hardest war in the world if we attack. public panic is a hard thing to beat. americans are easy to scare. they could destroy us if we dont tread carfully. terrorists are people with a blind cause and blind people with guns and bombs are dangerous"

This wouldn't be a difficult war to win for the United States, otherwise they wouldn't be initiating it! There is no way that they could "destroy us", and terrorists are not people with a blind cause. These particular terrorists have a very obvious cause, and aside from pleasing Allah, that is to curb American expansionism into their homeland.

So what do you propose?

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I propose the US seek assets without military intervention and blatant economic expansionism. I propose that they refrain from wreaking havoc on Iraq's civilian population and withdraw the sanctions that condemn Iraqis to starvation and death every day. Meddling in dozens of foreign countries will of course lead to the downfall of American globalization tactics.

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ok I hear what you say..basically american should mind there own business right?

well we get double whammy'd (:S) say we sit back and do nothing and then iraq goes to war with some small country and over takes it...and we still sit there and do nothing cuz its nothing of our business...and lets say Iraq being bold..well they already have a small country so why not go for another one....and etc....

then people would bitch at the US for not doing nothing..(they do anyways, for example we should help starving countries and etc...)

So if countries want our help and we help...or if we try to stop another country from invading other countries.. or "prevent" well its like you can't have your cake and eat it too...either other countries want our help to maintain justice and we do it our way...or they can starve, and get over-run by other countries cuz we won't protect it....

which do you choose? we help it, will be done our way....and no the US apparently isn't afriad to go to war...personally I don't like war i don't want people dead, but yet I also don't wanna get nuked, or have other terrorism attacks either...

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quote:
Originally posted by Hate Your State:
I propose the US seek assets without military intervention and blatant economic expansionism. I propose that they refrain from wreaking havoc on Iraq's civilian population and withdraw the sanctions that condemn Iraqis to starvation and death every day. Meddling in dozens of foreign countries will of course lead to the downfall of American globalization tactics.

This isnt just about oil.
Saddam doesnt already wreak havoc on his own population?
US sanctions ... oh you mean the UN sanctions ... that Saddam has spent on palaces and not the people to the north or south?
Well if you beleive the meddling will lead to the downfall, you have nothing to moan about then, as it will ultimatly happen, pleasing you. But to anyone with even half a brain it means plunging the world back into the dark ages.

If we let these people like Saddam and Bin Laden run around the world doing what they want, they would be threatening your freedom, and then you wouldnt be too happy.

Let me guess, you are a middle class teenage male, had it sweet all your life and you are quite rightly exersising your democratic right for expressing your free opinion. More than you get than in a lot of places in the world.

WAKE UP! & GROW UP! ... this is the way the world works, if you do not become part of the machine it will chew you up and spit you out.

[ March 14, 2003, 14:20: Message edited by: Bronx ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Hate Your State:
There is no way that justifies a war with Iraq.

"we may face the hardest war in the world if we attack. public panic is a hard thing to beat. americans are easy to scare. they could destroy us if we dont tread carfully. terrorists are people with a blind cause and blind people with guns and bombs are dangerous"

This wouldn't be a difficult war to win for the United States, otherwise they wouldn't be initiating it! There is no way that they could "destroy us", and terrorists are not people with a blind cause. These particular terrorists have a very obvious cause, and aside from pleasing Allah, that is to curb American expansionism into their homeland.

STFU liberal faggot

rot in hell liberal

i hate u zionist loving liberal fuckers

rot in hell, SIEG HEIL

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quote:
Let me guess, you are a middle class teenage male, had it sweet all your life and you are quite rightly exersising your democratic right for expressing your free opinion. More than you get than in a lot of places in the world.

lol hell ya Brox, you tell him like it is in the REAL world [Wink]

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so what??? the americans have loads of weapons as massive destruction, nuclear weapons (but they like to call it the deterrent)...and it has chemical/biological weapons too and it resists inspections more than iraq does....also so what if iraq has used chemical weapons.....didnt america use the nuke on the japs on not one but two occasions klling/maiming 200,000+ people as oppossed to the 100's killed by saddam???????

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quote:
Originally posted by Bronx:
This isnt just about oil.
Saddam doesnt already wreak havoc on his own population?

what bulsshit is this, if the americans are going in for anything other than oil why dont they solve the palenstiine crisis or the numerous deadly skirmishes in africa FIRST, cus people are actually dieing/suffering there right NOW.....but on the other hand there is no oil there.

Dont just call him a middle class babe in the woods or whatever...i agree with his point more.

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quote:
Originally posted by Arkan:
so what??? the americans have loads of weapons as massive destruction, nuclear weapons (but they like to call it the deterrent)...and it has chemical/biological weapons too and it resists inspections more than iraq does....also so what if iraq has used chemical weapons.....didnt america use the nuke on the japs on not one but two occasions klling/maiming 200,000+ people as oppossed to the 100's killed by saddam???????

Look how prosperous and democratic Japan is now ... Japan was so unbelievably different it is not even worth drawing parallels, and you know this.

Are you trying to justify Saddam’s recent actions? You sound like you support him to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Arkan:
what bulsshit is this, if the americans are going in for anything other than oil why dont they solve the palenstiine crisis or the numerous deadly skirmishes in africa FIRST, cus people are actually dieing/suffering there right NOW.....but on the other hand there is no oil there.

Dont just call him a middle class babe in the woods or whatever...i agree with his point more.

A lot of this is about oil, not many people deny this. Oil makes the world turn, ultimately it makes your computer work it will put you in a job when you leave as without oil at this moment in time the world would descend into the dark ages.

But this is not all about oil at all, we have to sort Saddam out, leave the rest until later. The west can not sort out all of the worlds problems at once, why cant the rest of Africa help out their neighbours … oh yeah they are!
And if you dislike American foreign policy so much, why do you believe they should be getting involved so much? What about Britain helping Sierra Leone? What about the French in the Ivory Coast?

Palestine is much more of a Pandora’s box than you seem to realise. Has the west not tried to sort out Palestine numerous times in the past, with no avail? At least most of the middle east will be Saddam going, and as mush as you seem to think that somehow our alliance will runs Saddam’s oil you are very much mistaken and Naive I might add.

I whole heartedly do not agree with his post;

Are we not doing our best to track down terrorists and bring them to justice?

do you propose we wait for Saddam to build up bigger so he can inflict more damage when we do go to attack him, so he can kill and torture more of his own people?

American expansionism … creating a free and democratic world? Is that so fucking bad? I wonder which group of people want to make the entire world Islamic Fundamentalism?

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quote:
Originally posted by Arkan:
quote:
Originally posted by Bronx:
This isnt just about oil.
Saddam doesnt already wreak havoc on his own population?

what bulsshit is this, if the americans are going in for anything other than oil why dont they solve the palenstiine crisis or the numerous deadly skirmishes in africa FIRST, cus people are actually dieing/suffering there right NOW.....but on the other hand there is no oil there.

Dont just call him a middle class babe in the woods or whatever...i agree with his point more.

What is this war about ?

Oil = Yes
Terrorism = Yes
Sadamn (I know the spelling is wrong) covering for and training terrorist = Yes
Sadamn having WMD = Yes

Oh Africa has dimonds maybe we will invade them next.

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