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Turn 12- Offensive action against Papua New Guinea
Units used-
Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo Yukan Class Assault Transport-Tokyo
Engineer Unit
Team Blitz! x Type 74 Tank unit-Tokyo x Type 74 Tank unit-Tokyo x MRLS Rocket Artillery-Tokyo x Infantry-Tokyo x Infantry-Tokyo x Infantry-Tokyo x Type-90 Tank unit- Tokyo
Supporting Navy-
Yushio Class Attack sub Yushio Class Attack sub Yushio Class Attack sub ’Abukuma’ Class Destroyer
Plan of attack-
The units are to swirl around the other side of the country, landing a few miles east of Port Moresby. Two infantry units along with one engineer unit will land with cover from the two Type 74 tanks, before hand, the three Yushio class attack subs will hunt down any bothersome ships around the bay, then the Destroyer will clear the waters of any submarines, awaiting further orders.
The engineer unit will begin construction a make-shift beach head base, while One infantry unit and one Type 90 tank unit partol the surrounding ten miles of the area, the type 79 tank units and the two infantry are to protect the construction of the make shift base, after routine patrol is done the patrols will go like this each turn:
Infantry unit, T90 Infantry unit, infantry unit Infantry unit, Type 74
and so on, so at least one infantry unit and one tank unit is there to protect the makeshift port and base for the ships and military units
--This is ONLY to secure a beach head near the capitol, not a full invasion-- So do the outcome to see if i have a beach head or not.
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quote: Originally posted by kenny:
Invasion of Papua New Guinea
Japan invades Papua New Guinea.
A Japanese force makes an amphibious landing near Port Moresby initially without any difficulties. But generals quickly realize that tanks are not suitable for jungle warfare, and as Papua New Guinea makes several counter-attacks, a few units are damaged.
The country is poor, though, and should not stand a chance if a few marines are sent to complement the landing troops next turn.
MISSION: beach head secure
CASUALTIES:
1/2 damage: Type 74 Tank unit 1/2 damage: Type 74 Tank unit 1/2 damage: Infantry-Tokyo
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Reinforcing the attack with
Marine Unit
Marine Unit
Infantry Unit
Transport unit
Yukan Class assault Transport unit
along with
Team Blitz! ( whole team is in Papua New guinea)
x Type 74 Tank unit-(1/2 dmg) x Type 74 Tank unit-(1/2 dmg) x MRLS Rocket Artillery- x Infantry-(1/2 dmg) x Infantry- x Infantry- x Type-90 Tank unit x Marine Unit x Marine Unit
The plan is as follows:
The normal transport unit brings in a new infantry unit and a marine unit to help with the land assault on the capital.
But in a suprise attack, one marine unit attacks the capital head on in a Yukan class assault transport unit! Moments after, three infantry units stand on the hills while the ROcket Artillery unit opens up fully on the city... but coming from the north are the T-90 tank unit, and the two T74 tank units with one infantry unit to guide them. After the entire rocket artillery team is out of rockets, the Engineer unit is to reload them as three infantry units, led by the marine unit, charge down to help the tanks and the Marine unit in the assault transport
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Invasion of Belgium - Codename: Storm Troops: 6x Leclerc Tank Unit 3x VAB Mechanized Infantry Unit 7x AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry Unit 1x Armoured Recon Unit 1x AMX-10 Roland SAM Anti-Aircraft Unit 1x VAB T-20 Anti-Aircraft Unit 1x AUF-1 Self-Propelled Artillery Unit 1x 1st LRM MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 1x 1st Towed Artillary Unit 1x Engineer Unit Naval Units (loaned by England) 4x Type 23 ‘Duke’ Class Frigate 1x Type 42 ‘Sheffield’ Class Destroyer 2x 'Upholder’ Class Diesel Attack Submarine 3x’Castle’ Class Patrol Boat
Belgiums Military expenditure is only around 3 billion right now, this shouldnt be too much of a problem for the Military might of France and the power of Englands Navy. Belgium uses lesser quality French Equipment, and in much less numbers.
Battalion 1 3x Leclerc Tank Unit 2 VAB Mechanized Infantry Unit 3x AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry Unit 1x Armoured Recon Unit 1x VAB T-20 Anti-Aircraft Unit 1x 1st LRM MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 1x 1st Towed Artillary Unit 1x Engineer Unit Battalion 2 3x Leclerc Tank Unit 2x VAB Mechanized Infantry Unit 4x AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry Unit 1x AMX-10 Roland SAM Anti-Aircraft Unit 1x AUF-1 Self-Propelled Artillery Unit 1x 1st Towed Artillary Unit 1x Engineer Unit
The tasks are simple, the Mech inf protects the Tanks from fire on the sides and the artillary fires without mercy on top of the oncoming infantry, smashing through cities and opposing forces, and just wreaking havok on the nation in General. A few minutes after the initial breach from the southern Boarders, the english Navy moves from the north and absolutely smashes the enemy ships, and the planes that come from above have no chance against the Anti-Air capabilities of the english ships. the seige on brussels prooved to be the most difficult, the artillary and tanks fired without mercy and blew through tanks, heavy fighting within the city insued, but after the seige, the units follow the battle plan as posted above.
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Ukraine and Russia invade Belarus
Ukrainean Army:
8 T-84 Oplot Tank units 10 Infantry units 1 AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry unit 1 BMP-3 Mechanized Infantry unit 1 engineer. 4 BM-22 Self-Propelled Rocket Artillery units 1 Mig-29 Fulcrum-C Fighter unit
The army heads directly north to Minsk, cooperating with it's Russian colleagues who attack from the east. Standart tactics is used, similar to the russian.
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4 х T-90 2 х T-80UM1 10 х Т-72BM
8 х BMP-3 10 х Infantry
4 х Su-39 3 х MiG-29S (let me stress it's S and not C; it's "C" in cyrillic, which means "S" in latin)
This impressive armour group attacks west from the Russian border again in the direction of Minsk. Tactics are as usual - Spearhead by the 6 modern tank units (T-90 and T-80UM1) backed by the modern mech inf units, flanks by the mass of T-72 and infantry. Abscence of artillery is compensated by the 4 ground-attack aircraft units. They are well-armoured and are especially constructed to withstand hand-held anti-air launchers. Heavier resistance is not expected. The MiG-29 squadron will work in cooperation with the Ukrainean to secure the air. Our land forces are overwhelming, the campaign should be quick and decisive. [ January 29, 2003, 03:43: Message edited by: Imperial Friedrich ]
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Now it's done...don't tell me you don't feel my style there
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China invades Cambodia. T12.
People's Liberation Army
33 Standard Infantry 6 Marine Infantry Units 2 Type 98 Tank Units 5 Type 90-I Tank Units 3 Type Yw-309 Mech. Inf. Units 2 Type 95 Anti-Aircraft Units 9 Towed Artillery Units
People's Liberation Army Airforce
6 J-10 Fighter Units
People's Liberation Navy
1 'Jianghu-III' Class Frigate
Cambodia stands no chance. They spend barely anything on their military (112 million dollars).
This is still jungle terrain, so we'll take precautions. Infantry, marines, and mech inf will sweep south like a broom. Behind them will follow tanks and artillery since they are sensitive units.
J-10s will establish air supremacy (which will take about 15 minutes to do), and will serve as recon. They will also mow down as well as relay enemy positions to artillery; the latter will then bombard the jungle.
Shell every city to bits and take them with infantry and mech inf. The country will be crippled once Pnom Penh is taken; the rest of it will follow with ease.
This country dirt poor, but still, generals are advised to take all the necessary precautions to protect their troops.
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quote: Originally posted by kenny: Reinforcing the attack with
Marine Unit
Marine Unit
Infantry Unit
Transport unit
Yukan Class assault Transport unit
along with
Team Blitz! ( whole team is in Papua New guinea)
x Type 74 Tank unit-(1/2 dmg) x Type 74 Tank unit-(1/2 dmg) x MRLS Rocket Artillery- x Infantry-(1/2 dmg) x Infantry- x Infantry- x Type-90 Tank unit x Marine Unit x Marine Unit
The plan is as follows:
The normal transport unit brings in a new infantry unit and a marine unit to help with the land assault on the capital.
But in a suprise attack, one marine unit attacks the capital head on in a Yukan class assault transport unit! Moments after, three infantry units stand on the hills while the ROcket Artillery unit opens up fully on the city... but coming from the north are the T-90 tank unit, and the two T74 tank units with one infantry unit to guide them. After the entire rocket artillery team is out of rockets, the Engineer unit is to reload them as three infantry units, led by the marine unit, charge down to help the tanks and the Marine unit in the assault transport[/qb]
Japan continues assault on Papua New Guinea
Lack of numbers and a bizarre battle plan makes the second half of the operation deadly to troops and civilians on both sides.
The Yukan lands one marine unit, which is subsequently caught in hailstorm of friendly rocket artillery fire and is completely decimated along with the capital, Port Moresby, and all of its civilians.
The rest of the attacking force is able to occupy the city with ease though, once the bombarding is terminated. The rest of the country proves relatively difficult to take, as there is no aerial support. A good deal of units, especially tanks, are ambushed by guerilla resisters.
MISSION: PYRRHIC VICTORY
CASUALTIES:
lost: Type 74 Tank unit (2/2 dmg) lost: Type 74 Tank unit (2/2 dmg) lost: Infantry (2/2 dmg) lost: Marine Unit 1/2 dmg: Type-90 Tank unit
(occupation: 3; cannibalistic tribesmen) [ January 29, 2003, 05:19: Message edited by: Yankee ]
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quote: Originally posted by -Ma$oN-: Invasion of Belgium - Codename: Storm Troops: 6x Leclerc Tank Unit 3x VAB Mechanized Infantry Unit 7x AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry Unit 1x Armoured Recon Unit 1x AMX-10 Roland SAM Anti-Aircraft Unit 1x VAB T-20 Anti-Aircraft Unit 1x AUF-1 Self-Propelled Artillery Unit 1x 1st LRM MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 1x 1st Towed Artillary Unit 1x Engineer Unit Naval Units (loaned by England) 4x Type 23 ‘Duke’ Class Frigate 1x Type 42 ‘Sheffield’ Class Destroyer 2x 'Upholder’ Class Diesel Attack Submarine 3x’Castle’ Class Patrol Boat
France invades Belgium.
Belgium possesses a small but able force, and delivers a deal of damage to invading forces.
It cannot resist the fury of the French army, and surrenders after fighting valliantly.
MISSION: SUCCESSFUL
CASUALTIES:
1/2 damage: Leclerc Tank Unit 1/2 damage: Leclerc Tank Unit 1/2 damage: VAB Mechanized Infantry Unit lost: Engineer Unit sunk: ’Castle’ Class Patrol Boat
(occupation 2; fiesty citizens)
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quote: Originally posted by Dejango: [QB]Ukraine and Russia invade Belarus
Ukrainean Army:
8 T-84 Oplot Tank units 10 Infantry units 1 AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry unit 1 BMP-3 Mechanized Infantry unit 1 engineer. 4 BM-22 Self-Propelled Rocket Artillery units 1 Mig-29 Fulcrum-C Fighter unit
The army heads directly north to Minsk, cooperating with it's Russian colleagues who attack from the east. Standart tactics is used, similar to the russian.
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Russian Army:
4 х T-90 2 х T-80UM1 10 х Т-72BM
8 х BMP-3 10 х Infantry
4 х Su-39 3 х MiG-29S (let me stress it's S and not C; it's "C" in cyrillic, which means "S" in latin)
Russia and the Ukraine slaughter Belarus.
A massive force combined with a comprehensive and coherent battle plan spells disaster for Belarus, which manages to inflict a little damage on invading troops before surrendering.
lost: 1 Russian Infantry lost: 1 Ukrainian Infantry 1/2 damage: 1 Russian Infantry 1/2 damage: 1 AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry unit
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Those right winged lunatics
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quote: Japan continues assault on Papua New Guinea
Lack of numbers and a bizarre battle plan makes the second half of the operation deadly to troops and civilians on both sides.
The Yukan lands one marine unit, which is subsequently caught in hailstorm of friendly rocket artillery fire and is completely decimated along with the capital, Port Moresby, and all of its civilians.
lmao
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quote: Originally posted by Yankee: CASUALTIES:
1/2 damage: Leclerc Tank Unit 1/2 damage: Leclerc Tank Unit 1/2 damage: VAB Mechanized Infantry Unit lost: Engineer Unit sunk: ’Castle’ Class Patrol Boat
(occupation 2; fiesty citizens)
Only the Royal Navy National Defence Fleet was involved, the Royal Navy Patrol Boat Group A had nothing to do with the attack. The topic clearly stated it, and is un-edited. although if France wants to buy me a new patrol boat it can.
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quote: Originally posted by Bronx: Only the Royal Navy National Defence Fleet was involved, the Royal Navy Patrol Boat Group A had nothing to do with the attack. The topic clearly stated it, and is un-edited. although if France wants to buy me a new patrol boat it can.[/QB]
Um... quote from mason's battle plan:
quote: 2x 'Upholder’ Class Diesel Attack Submarine 3x’Castle’ Class Patrol Boat
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A few minutes after the initial breach from the southern Boarders, the english Navy moves from the north and absolutely smashes the enemy ships,
I don't know how to interpret this, but it seems pretty clear that the patrol boats were involved in the fight.
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Ah, I hadnt read it and only told him my Battle fleet could be used, the patrol boats are patrol boats.
Ah well, let it be he promised to buy me any new ships if they were sunk anyway, so I get a replacment regardless.
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Germany and Italy Attack Austria:
German Heer:
1 x Aerial Recon Unit 2 x LARS Rocket Artillery Unit 2 x Engineer Unit 2 x Leopard II A6 EX Tank Unit 2 x Leopard I A6 Tank Unit 2 x Marder Mechanized Infantry Unit 2 x Infantry Unit
German Luftwaffe:
2 x BO-105P Attack Helicopter Unit 2 x Alpha Jet 3 FB Fighter/Attack Unit
Italian Army:
4x infantry 4 front line 1x Armored Recon Unit 2x units of Ariete C2 Tank Unit 2x units of VCC-80 Mechanized Infantry Unit
Italian Airforce:
2x units of AMX-1 Fighter/Attack Unit 4x units of A129 ‘Mangusta’ Attack Helicopter Unit (< purchasing this turn)
Battle Plan
The German and Italian Jets Fly over the boarder, after key targets have been located by the Arial Recon Unit and strike them quickly including Airbases and Anti-Air units and unsuspecting tank units. The AMX-1's engaging in any dogfighting followed by attack helicopters from both nations attacking the large numbers of artillery located throughout the nation. Once the air units destory their primary targets they move onto vienna and hit in repeatedly until ground forces arrive in defensive positions, ground units pour over the boarder and link up in between Klagenfurt and Salzburg which the column will include tanks supported by LARS rocket artillery and the ground recon unit scouts ahead for resistance along the way. Whilst mech infantry and infantrys from both nations travel in parallels of the main column (Germany North, Italy South) and head towards the capital Vienna and include engineers running ahead of either infantry column destroying gun emplacements missed. Then surround Veinna and proceed in and finish off any resistance missed by the attack units. [ January 30, 2003, 00:09: Message edited by: 2-D ]
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Russia attacks Lithuania (turn 14)
The Russian forces make a swift and bold stroke from the newly conquered Belarus, the complete occupation of which is left to the Ukrainean forces. The Russian attack army will simply overrun the small country with the inertia it already gained. Tactic schemes are standart, however higher vigilance is ordered to the troops as the Lithuanians are expected to be hostile despite their relative lack of any military.
Attack army:
4 х T-90 2 х T-80UM1 10 х Т-72BM
8 х BMP-3 8 х Infantry
4 х Su-39 3 х MiG-29S [ January 30, 2003, 00:44: Message edited by: Imperial Friedrich ]
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Turn 14- Japan attacks Fiji
Using: Akubuma(sp?) Class destroyer
Yushio Class attack sub
Infantry Unit Marine Unit Marine Unit Yukan Class assault transport Yukan Class assault transport Yukan Class assault transport
Plan: Alright, the destroyer blows up any patrol boats, and the sub marine patrols around picking off any left overs the destroyer leaves behind. a marine unit invades the small town of Labasa on the small island from the capital using a Yukan class assault transport.
Meanwhile, landing in the capital is a Marine unit behind backed up by a infantry unit, they should not harm any civilians and will take no shots when Civilians will be seen... This is to make the leader surrender the country to Japan easily... With hardly any losses from either sides.
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Ukraine Invades Slovakia
The Ukraine invades Slovakia with
5 Infantry Units (4 occupied in Belarus), 3 Mig-29 Fulcrum-C Fighter Unit, 8 T-84 Oplot Tanks, 4 BM-22 Self-Propelled Rocket Artillery Units, 1 AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry Unit, 5 BMP-3 Mechanized Infatry Unit
1 h6 strategic bomber from China
The Ukraine does a general Blitz sweep through Slovakia. The Fulcrums, BMP-3's, AMX-10P, T-84's, and BM-22's sweep forward throughout the country, crushing any opposition. The Infantry then slowly move behind, securing spots, holding others, and clearing away small pockets of resistance.
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British Occupation of Monaco
Royal Air Force Transport Squadron: – Monte Carlo, Monaco x A400M Air Transport Unit
Royal Monaco Military Police x Infantry Unit
The A400M transport lands in Monaco and the troops disembark. Again no one is to be killed, only officers and senior NCOs have loaded magazines. The troops are looking forward to the beautiful Monaco and are in high non-violent spirits. The existing government is allowed to continue to rule, only that Monaco becomes an administrative area of the British Empire. [ January 30, 2003, 02:20: Message edited by: Bronx ]
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USA invades Guatemala!
Units: .S.S. Smitty 'Virginia' Class Nuclear Powered Attack Submarine
U.S.S. Arlington 'Virginia' Class Nuclear Powered Cruiser
U.S.S. Karner 'Cyclone' Class Patrol Boat U.S.S. Harper 'Cyclone' Class Patrol Boat
U.S.S. Vengeace Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship U.S.S. Dallas Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship U.S.S. Abilene Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship U.S.S. Texas Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship
1st Airborne Division 1st AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 2nd AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
2nd Airborne Division 3rd AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 4th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
3rd Airborne Division 5th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 6th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
4th Airborne Division 1st B-1B 'Lancer' Strategic Bomber Unit
1st Engineering Division 1st Engineer Division
1st Armored Divison 1st M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 3rd M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 1st M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit 2nd M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit
1st Marine Elite Division 3rd Marine Core Infantry Unit 1st Marine Core Support Unit
2nd Marine Elite Division 2nd Marine Core Infantry Unit 4th Marine Core Infantry Unit
3rd Marine Elite Divisions 4th Marine Core Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 1st Army Ranger Infantry Unit 2nd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 3rd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 4th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 5th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 6th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 7th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 8th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 9th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 10th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Artillery Division 1st M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 2nd M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 1st M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit 2nd M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit
1st Anti-Aircraft Division 1st M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 2nd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 3rd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 1st Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit 2nd Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit
The Majority of the fighting will befrom the air, with the Lancer unit defended by the harriers, laying waste to all cities they encounter. The ground forces spread out and move over the mountanius terrian as a single force, the army and marine elite at the forefront of the action, flanked by armored units, with AA and Artilltery in the rear.
The force sweeps southward and takes the capital.
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Do your duty and write up our battle reports
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Dejango how do your units get to Slovakia, when theyre in Belarus when you can only move one nation at a time and Belarus has no boarder with Slovakia?
"Movement Rules!:
Land Units: 1 Country each turn"
they cant.... [ January 30, 2003, 10:18: Message edited by: 2-D ]
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quote: Originally posted by Dejango: Do your duty and write up our battle reports
you'd think 4 people could handle it
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in short i dont want IF doing my results
you claimed i wouldnt win with 6 tank units please explain how the fuck you came to this conclusion when France invaded Belguim with 6 tanks units and 9 units less in total on Belguim. Which might i add has a military expenditure twice that of Austria? My forced also contained 2 recon units air and ground and a lot of air units and france had none.
Military Expenditure's
Belguim $3,076,500,000 Austria $1,497,100,000 [ January 30, 2003, 21:10: Message edited by: 2-D ]
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quote: Originally posted by 2-D: Belarus has no boarder with Slovakia?
"Movement Rules!:
Land Units: 1 Country each turn"
they cant....
you can move through YOUR territory including your occupied territories freely.
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ah right i didnt know the rules had been changed to suit other peoples need, can i use dejangos magical transportation device sometime? (a.k.a. the cronosphere) dont bullshit me its not been like that before...
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quote: Originally posted by Yankee: quote: Originally posted by 2-D: Belarus has no boarder with Slovakia?
"Movement Rules!:
Land Units: 1 Country each turn"
they cant....
you can move through YOUR territory including your occupied territories freely.
What a load of bollocks ...
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i move one tank directly onto the position of every leader in the world, using the cronosphere. It crushes them to death i win the wargame.............
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quote: Originally posted by 2-D: i move one tank directly onto the position of every leader in the world, using the cronosphere. It crushes them to death i win the wargame.............
uhm, ukraine borders slovakia
ukraine had troops in belarus which he moved back into ukraine, which were then used in his attack against slovakia.
quote: dont bullshit me its not been like that before...
you can move your troops within YOUR country within one turn. YOUR country also includes your OCCUPIED territories. It was like this last game; just ask gbot. So don't give me your bullshit about your 'chronosphere' or whatever the crap you're talking about. [ January 30, 2003, 23:27: Message edited by: Yankee ]
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quote: Originally posted by Yankee: China invades Cambodia. T12.
People's Liberation Army
33 Standard Infantry 6 Marine Infantry Units 2 Type 98 Tank Units 5 Type 90-I Tank Units 3 Type Yw-309 Mech. Inf. Units 2 Type 95 Anti-Aircraft Units 9 Towed Artillery Units
People's Liberation Army Airforce
6 J-10 Fighter Units
People's Liberation Navy
1 'Jianghu-III' Class Frigate
Cambodia stands no chance. They spend barely anything on their military (112 million dollars).
This is still jungle terrain, so we'll take precautions. Infantry, marines, and mech inf will sweep south like a broom. Behind them will follow tanks and artillery since they are sensitive units.
J-10s will establish air supremacy (which will take about 15 minutes to do), and will serve as recon. They will also mow down as well as relay enemy positions to artillery; the latter will then bombard the jungle.
Shell every city to bits and take them with infantry and mech inf. The country will be crippled once Pnom Penh is taken; the rest of it will follow with ease.
This country dirt poor, but still, generals are advised to take all the necessary precautions to protect their troops.
China invades Cambodia!
Outcome: Chinese victory
total domination, mass infantry proves to be a good jungle technique, as it leaves no room for enemy troops to flank or ambush on.
Losses: 2 Infantry Units 1 Towed Artillery Unit
Occupation:3(heavy jungles and rebels) [ January 30, 2003, 23:26: Message edited by: CloyneBlade ]
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quote: Originally posted by CloyneBlade: USA invades Guatemala!
Units: .S.S. Smitty 'Virginia' Class Nuclear Powered Attack Submarine
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1st Airborne Division 1st AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 2nd AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
2nd Airborne Division 3rd AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 4th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
3rd Airborne Division 5th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 6th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
4th Airborne Division 1st B-1B 'Lancer' Strategic Bomber Unit
1st Engineering Division 1st Engineer Division
1st Armored Divison 1st M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 3rd M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 1st M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit 2nd M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit
1st Marine Elite Division 3rd Marine Core Infantry Unit 1st Marine Core Support Unit
2nd Marine Elite Division 2nd Marine Core Infantry Unit 4th Marine Core Infantry Unit
3rd Marine Elite Divisions 4th Marine Core Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 1st Army Ranger Infantry Unit 2nd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 3rd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 4th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 5th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 6th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 7th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 8th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 9th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 10th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Artillery Division 1st M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 2nd M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 1st M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit 2nd M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit
1st Anti-Aircraft Division 1st M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 2nd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 3rd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 1st Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit 2nd Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit
USA invades Guatemala
USA takes this dirt poor country with ease. Old Guatemalan gandmas attempt to fight back at M1A2 tank units with rocks but are summarily blown up.
Military analysts are left to wonder why some people are so stupid as to resist the American blitz.
MISSION: SUCCESSFUL
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lost: 2nd Marine Core Infantry Unit (street to street fighting)
COMMENTS: you have two "4th marine core units" (boldfaced on your battle plan)
(occupation: 3; STD-ridden crackwhores in Guatemala City) [ January 30, 2003, 23:43: Message edited by: Yankee ]
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This won't be so easy! [ January 31, 2003, 01:26: Message edited by: Imperial Friedrich ]
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quote: Originally posted by Imperial Friedrich: Russia attacks Lithuania (turn 14)
The Russian forces make a swift and bold stroke from the newly conquered Belarus, the complete occupation of which is left to the Ukrainean forces. The Russian attack army will simply overrun the small country with the inertia it already gained. Tactic schemes are standart, however higher vigilance is ordered to the troops as the Lithuanians are expected to be hostile despite their relative lack of any military.
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4 х T-90 2 х T-80UM1 10 х Т-72BM
8 х BMP-3 8 х Infantry
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Russian troops quickly gain air control and ground troops sweep through the country despite heavy resistance.
Russian Victory!
Lossses 2 Infantry Units 1 T-80
occupation 2(they hate you)
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quote: Originally posted by kenny: Turn 14- Japan attacks Fiji
Using: Akubuma(sp?) Class destroyer
Yushio Class attack sub
Infantry Unit Marine Unit Marine Unit Yukan Class assault transport Yukan Class assault transport Yukan Class assault transport
Plan: Alright, the destroyer blows up any patrol boats, and the sub marine patrols around picking off any left overs the destroyer leaves behind. a marine unit invades the small town of Labasa on the small island from the capital using a Yukan class assault transport.
Meanwhile, landing in the capital is a Marine unit behind backed up by a infantry unit, they should not harm any civilians and will take no shots when Civilians will be seen... This is to make the leader surrender the country to Japan easily... With hardly any losses from either sides.
Boom! Shoom!!! Bam bam bam bam!!! *turns off bf1942*
anyway, a few Fijian soldiers try to kill Japan dudes by giving them fattening foods, but their plot is quickly discovered, and theyre given expensive japanese electronics
No losses, 1 occupation
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quote: Originally posted by Dejango: Ukraine Invades Slovakia
The Ukraine invades Slovakia with
5 Infantry Units (4 occupied in Belarus), 3 Mig-29 Fulcrum-C Fighter Unit, 8 T-84 Oplot Tanks, 4 BM-22 Self-Propelled Rocket Artillery Units, 1 AMX-10P Mechanized Infantry Unit, 5 BMP-3 Mechanized Infatry Unit
1 h6 strategic bomber from China
The Ukraine does a general Blitz sweep through Slovakia. The Fulcrums, BMP-3's, AMX-10P, T-84's, and BM-22's sweep forward throughout the country, crushing any opposition. The Infantry then slowly move behind, securing spots, holding others, and clearing away small pockets of resistance.
Massive russian air dominace quickly make this a one sided fight, slovakia has a large but obsolete army which puts up no fight to armored units, but strike craft and infantry are damaged.
Russian Victory!
Losses 2 Infantry Units 1 BM-22 1 Mig-29(1/2 DMG)(Hit by stingers after a low altitude strike on ground troops)
Occuaption:4
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quote: Originally posted by Bronx: British Occupation of Monaco
Royal Air Force Transport Squadron: – Monte Carlo, Monaco x A400M Air Transport Unit
Royal Monaco Military Police x Infantry Unit
The A400M transport lands in Monaco and the troops disembark. Again no one is to be killed, only officers and senior NCOs have loaded magazines. The troops are looking forward to the beautiful Monaco and are in high non-violent spirits. The existing government is allowed to continue to rule, only that Monaco becomes an administrative area of the British Empire.
Blah de dah...british troops have tea time in the capital's square.
Then...bum bum bummmm.a disgruntled citizen chunks a motlov cocktail out a 2nd story window and cooks some british soldiers
Losses: 1 Infantry Unit(1/2 DMG)
Occupation:1(motlov man yet to be caught)
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quote:
Russian Victory!
Losses[/b] 2 Infantry Units 1 BM-22 1 Mig-29(1/2 DMG)(Hit by stingers after a low altitude strike on ground troops)
You mean ukrainian
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quote: Originally posted by Yankee: quote:
Russian Victory!
Losses[/b] 2 Infantry Units 1 BM-22 1 Mig-29(1/2 DMG)(Hit by stingers after a low altitude strike on ground troops)
You mean ukrainian
oh...yea lol
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quote: Originally posted by CloyneBlade: Then...bum bum bummmm.a disgruntled citizen chunks a motlov cocktail out a 2nd story window and cooks some british soldiers
Losses: 1 Infantry Unit(1/2 DMG)
Occupation:1(motlov man yet to be caught)
haha ... WTF ... ah well, it must have been a fucking large molotov to kill 150 men ...
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USA invades honduras
they have enough income to buy the right intake for a harrier every 3 months. point taken. overkill
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2nd Airborne Division 3rd AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 4th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
3rd Airborne Division 5th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 6th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
4th Airborne Division 1st B-1B 'Lancer' Strategic Bomber Unit
1st Airborne Sub-Hunter Division (Patrols over the west coast) 1st P-3 'Orion' Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit 2nd P-3 'Orion' Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit 3rd P-3 'Orion' Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit 1st S-3B 'Viking' Anti-Ship/Submarine Naval Unit
1st Engineering Division 1st Engineer Division 1st Armored Divison 1st M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 3rd M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 1st M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit 2nd M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit
1st Marine Elite Division 1st Marine Core Support Unit 3rd Marine Core Infantry Unit
2nd Marine Elite Division 4th Marine Core Infantry Unit
3rd Marine Elite Divisions 5th Marine Core Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 1st Army Ranger Infantry Unit 2nd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 3rd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 4th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 5th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 6th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 7th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 8th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 9th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 10th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Artillery Division 1st M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 2nd M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 1st M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit 2nd M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit
1st Anti-Aircraft Division 1st M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 2nd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 3rd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 1st Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit 2nd Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit
Kill...boom boom, the mountanious terrian is excellent combat ground for our harriers and army elite.
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WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE? WHO DELETED MY BATTLE REPORT?
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quote: Originally posted by 2-D: in short i dont want IF doing my results
you claimed i wouldnt win with 6 tank units please explain how the fuck you came to this conclusion when France invaded Belguim with 6 tanks units and 9 units less in total on Belguim. Which might i add has a military expenditure twice that of Austria? My forced also contained 2 recon units air and ground and a lot of air units and france had none.
Military Expenditure's
Belguim $3,076,500,000 Austria $1,497,100,000
I haven't seen France's combat report; if I did it it would look completely different.
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Is there at least one single person on this board who has any clue of war?
Verdammt, you think you can invade an entire country with like 6 tank units (abt 250-300 tanks) and few other things and actually win???
If you want to have a baby level plastic soldiers game, fine but count me out!
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quote: Originally posted by Imperial Friedrich: Is there at least one single person on this board who has any clue of war?
Verdammt, you think you can invade an entire country with like 6 tank units (abt 250-300 tanks) and few other things and actually win???
If you want to have a baby level plastic soldiers game, fine but count me out!
Its only a game, and a little stupid to spend a month building an army that size.
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oh it's only a game!
ok, I'll get one tank and will go conquering the world from now on
The last game was serious; here I see only crybabies I wonder if there's any point in wasting my time with this [ January 31, 2003, 03:02: Message edited by: Imperial Friedrich ]
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quote: Originally posted by CloyneBlade: This won't be so easy!
they lost about half their army apeice
anyway that was the last outcome i'll ever do cuz imp whines too much
so do the damn outcomes yourself, which is part of your mod responsibilities [ January 31, 2003, 03:22: Message edited by: CloyneBlade ]
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quote: Originally posted by CloyneBlade: quote: Originally posted by CloyneBlade: This won't be so easy!
they lost about half their army apeice
anyway that was the last outcome i'll ever do cuz imp whines too much
so do the damn outcomes yourself, which is part of your mod responsibilities
Oh I did did it after thinking for half an hour and changing their fate three times, from grave loss, to barely getting control of the country, then to retreat; but someone who thinks it's not fair that the enemy actually shows resistance, deleted my outcome. I can't work this way
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stop the bitching people, come on!
From now on, when I do battle reports, ppl are gonna need a LOT more units for countries like austria and belgium and ireland. If not, I'll make you lose. End of story. I'm gonna write a guidline for battle now. [ January 31, 2003, 04:05: Message edited by: Yankee ]
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I agree...this game is full of crybabies..
2-D, do you know anything of geography?
Look at Italy, Germany, and Austria geographically.
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yes, obviously more than you, i used the appropriate units and tell me why Austria can make 17 out of 32 units vanish and i still lose. Yet France take Belguim losing about 3 small units in total and Belguim Spends twice as much on Military,
Lets put it this way, you all would be 'bitching' too but fortunately this means Germany is weak so you dont really care and its an advatage to you, anyother situation you would agree with me how fucking stupid that report was, im trying to be serious but when devastating results are made to your own end you can go fuck yourself, yes i know what direction your heading with your units. Now shut the fuck up you know im right, but if its going to be like that then i welcome the fact the first disagreement makes you run off and cry like a baby.
quote: you can move your troops within YOUR country within one turn. YOUR country also includes your OCCUPIED territories
this is bullshit too.... its one turn per country regardless
and Dejango i dont think the Geography will save me when it comes to me being invaded will it? Yes i am aware of it thats why i used a lot of attack helicopters.... i also attacked west from Munich avoiding the worst mountians etc [ January 31, 2003, 17:30: Message edited by: 2-D ]
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quote: Originally posted by 2-D: quote: you can move your troops within YOUR country within one turn. YOUR country also includes your OCCUPIED territories
this is bullshit too.... its one turn per country regardless
No, one turn for all your territories. Was decided during the last game.
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you see no ones told me this and it wasnt in the rules and it doesnt maike sense that i wouldnt be able to to though friendly territories the same like China can go from Phnom Pahn to Ashgahbat quicker than i can go from Bonn to Bilbao
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So you demand absolute realism on movement...
but the pretend world on war?
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I wanna invade Sudan.....so how do i do it? [ January 31, 2003, 15:38: Message edited by: DaRk QuEen ]
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That isn’t what 2-D was saying Dej, and you know it, whats the point in continuing this bullshit argument for no reason, when it is blatant it will go nowhere?
This rule may have been decided in the last game, but as far as I can tell it was not in the rules and no one was informed. A simple mistake, on both accounts. Lets remember that this is a simple game, a supposed bit of fun.
I think the absolute main point of all this, is that up untill the 'super realistic' (lmfao) outcome done by IF, and as good as it was they were consistent. As much as you call people cry-babies, if things are fun to play no one will want play them, then you wil moan about how everyone left. Lets keep things rolling along how they were before so this game doesnt take an entire year. [ January 31, 2003, 15:48: Message edited by: Bronx ]
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quote: So you demand absolute realism on movement...
but the pretend world on war?
well lets face it its not absolute realism is it? it doesnt take the same amount of time to move from one end of russia to the other even real time is longer than that, its a good balance it means the game is enjoyable to play but wont be over in about 4 weeks because someone can move 1000's of mile per turn. Also it can wipe out the point behind making factories in other countries why is that even there if we can move as many units to where ever we want in one turn if all your land is connected. Its simply a random disadvantage thrown in for Island nations. For what purpose?
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quote: I agree...this game is full of crybabies..
2-D, do you know anything of geography?
Look at Italy, Germany, and Austria geographically
ok then lets put this into Dejangos terms you attacked Slovakia (through some made-up-as-you-go rule, you got your units there) but anyway Slovakia has a 3rd expenditure of that of Austria also i sent in a lot more units so i should lose thereabout 3 times the number of units you lost, did i? umm no... look for yourself, hey i've even saved you the effort.
Your Losses
2 Infantry Units 1 BM-22 1 Mig-29(1/2 DMG)(Hit by stingers after a low altitude strike on ground troops)
My Losses:
1 x LARS Rocket Artillery Unit 1 x Engineer Unit 1 x Leopard II A6 EX Tank Unit 2 x Leopard I A6 Tank Unit 1 x Marder Mechanized Infantry Unit 2 x Infantry Unit
1 x BO-105P Attack Helicopter Unit 1 x Alpha Jet 3 FB Fighter/Attack Unit
3x infantry 1x Armored Recon Unit 1x units of Ariete C2 Tank Unit 1x units of VCC-80 Mechanized Infantry Unit
2x units of A129 ‘Mangusta’ Attack Helicopter Unit
hmm so you lost 3 1/2. that would mean me losing 10 1/2 units but winning the fight right? NO i lost 17 units and lose, now after using your result to compare it to, you have the right the stfu and stop making out this wont hold me back for a long long time and doesnt totally fuck my game up.
No buts, just shut the fuck up. [ January 31, 2003, 17:31: Message edited by: 2-D ]
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2-D is bitching, and I think if he continues to say anything offensive or scarcastic he should be kicked.
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yeah i had a feeling you wouldnt agree with me, how about i delete you from the forum you little prick? fuck off up until then i hadnt said anything too offensiev apart from the shut the fuck up to dejango at least..
hey, you wouldnt happen to want Germany by any chance would you? after all you spent an amasing amount of time 'bitching' because you didnt get it at the start.
Nevertheless you are entitled to yuor opinion no matter how worthless it is... [ January 31, 2003, 21:17: Message edited by: 2-D ]
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quote: Originally posted by 2-D: this is bullshit too.... its one turn per country regardless
hmm, no it's not. stop bitching.
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ok then im sorry from not abiding by the 'unwritten rules' i'll stop bitching as soon as you tell me of anything else you've made up so i dont make such a mistake in future, because no matter what you say it doesnt say it anywhere in the rules.
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ok, enough sh1te
all, who do combat outcomes should adhere to the same rules.
some guidelines:
don't just compare the military budgets. The money can be spent for many different things. One should rather look at the equipment and numbers the country has. As gbot said in his rules, one tank units has app. 50 tanks, so use this as a guideline - if you attack with 6 tank units, you have app. 300 tanks there. If the attacked country has somewhat equal numbers and quality (like, attacking Germany had 2 Leo2A6 units and 2 older Leo1A6 units, and Austria has Leo2A4 tanks), one can't expect to win. Not at all. Esp., in the German attack he had like 2 mech inf and 2 inf units - err, you expect to take over the entire country with this?....for the 6 tank units you need at least 12 inf/mech inf to support them, not to mention artillery and stuff. Your disbalanced armies show nothing different than military ignorance, and this is counted too in the outcome.
Bah, I can write tons about tactics and stuff but don't have the time...So let's make it clear how the game will proceed - I want the mods to express their opinions.
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Im sorry i thought this was a game. I wasnt just comparing Budgets but also attacking units and whatever i could find, and to be honest i couldnt find a lot on Austria Military most of it was pre-WW1, what i did find showed Austria having a large number of artillery units (explaining why i used to many attack helicopters) the Leopard 2's well mine were more advanced and i thought the Airete and Leopard ones could take on the Steyr light tanks and m60's Austria also has as they are both pre 1970's tanks. And i believed that the artillery and engineer units would help destory the gun emplacements throughout the country, im aware that Austria has 50,000 troops but using those figure would mean a lot of results would have to be redone.
I'm not disputing you knowledge or my 'Military Ignorance' as you call it but simply the fact that things have been taking account in my results that havent even been brushed upon with pretty much every result up until mine. [ February 01, 2003, 01:54: Message edited by: 2-D ]
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you might remember Sweden's attempt at attacking Norway
Just a note, a very old and surely outdated military principle says that the attacker has to have 4 times the strength of the defenders to ensure success...just a note;
When you attack with armour, don't think that the enemy will offer you a open-ground joust with his own tanks unless he has technological superiority; rather, he'd be smart and attack the vulnerable flank, esp. in the case where you have nothing at all protecting them...or he'd organise ambushes etc, not hard if you're fighting on own terrain. And taking cities. There were a few great articles on the Russian experience in Chechnya, where the Russians used their armour very improperly. I must say, if you want to take control of another country, you need masses of infantry to fight the city battles (tanks are sh1te in those, and heavily built-up, hilly and woody central europe is not a very suitable ground for all-armour assault (not like anyone would do that at all...combined arms have been forged from the middle of WW2...), ask any of the NATO commanders, planning the defence against the so expected soviet tank onslaught; they were much relying on that fact.
anyway, that's what I called for - all mods say what they want - real war or some simplified easy stuff; but then don't call it wargame cause it won't be [ February 01, 2003, 03:00: Message edited by: Imperial Friedrich ]
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u no somone has to lay some guide lines for battles. i dont no how to attack, when, or how many units i need. i dont think that we need to look up the countiy's miltray power to c what i have to attack.
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you might not think but this is the way we played last game and everyone was serious about it
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I dont want to start this up, and I dont doubt the seriousness of most of the players left now, but everyone does not have a vast knowledge of a history of military tactics. Im just saying be a bit easier on people ...
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just give me a result similar to frances... i had air superiority and france had no air units whatsoever.... and anyone who knows anything about military will know Air Superiority can make or break an Attack and i hit them fast with quite a few air units and the area had been reconned....
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i'll keep doing results, but apparently they need to be much harder, fine with me. From now on, you have to research and give an vaild battle plan to do good.
site imp posted eariler that has good military stats. http://www.1upinfo.com/country-guide-study/
this only counts for major countries, countries like fiji or whatever don't need 4 hours of preparation
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re-result of Germany/Italy's attack on Austria
Italy and Germany invade Austria!
*skips the long explanation imp deleted...grrrrr*
Status: Stalemate outside teh capital
Losses:
German 1 x BO-105P Attack Helicopter Unit 1 x Alpha Jet 3 FB Fighter/Attack Unit 1 x Infantry Unit 2 x Engineer Unit
Italian 3 x A129 ‘Mangusta’ Attack Helicopter Unit 2 x Infantry Units
*battle turns pass during the bitching and moaning*
Status:Capital captured, Austria falls
Losses:
German 1 x Infantry Unit 1 x Leopard I 1 x Lars arty(1/2 DMG) 1 x Marder Mech inf(1/2 DMG)
Italian 1 x AMX-1 Fighter/Attack Unit 1 x Armored Recon(1/2 DMG) 1 x Ariete C2(1/2 DMG) 1 x Infantry Unit
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can some1 do my honduras outcome? it should be easy since theyre so damn weak
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quote: Originally posted by CloyneBlade: [QB]USA invades honduras
they have enough income to buy the right intake for a harrier every 3 months. point taken. overkill
Units:
U.S.S. Arlington 'Virginia' Class Nuclear Powered Cruiser
U.S.S. Karner 'Cyclone' Class Patrol Boat U.S.S. Harper 'Cyclone' Class Patrol Boat
U.S.S. Vengeace Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship U.S.S. Dallas Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship U.S.S. Abilene Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship U.S.S. Texas Wasp Class Assault Landing Ship
1st Airborne Division 1st AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 2nd AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
2nd Airborne Division 3rd AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 4th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
3rd Airborne Division 5th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit 6th AV-8 Harrier II VTOL Naval Aircraft Unit
4th Airborne Division 1st B-1B 'Lancer' Strategic Bomber Unit
1st Airborne Sub-Hunter Division (Patrols over the west coast) 1st P-3 'Orion' Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit 2nd P-3 'Orion' Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit 3rd P-3 'Orion' Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit 1st S-3B 'Viking' Anti-Ship/Submarine Naval Unit
1st Engineering Division 1st Engineer Division 1st Armored Divison 1st M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 3rd M1A2 Abrams Tank Unit 1st M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit 2nd M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit
1st Marine Elite Division 1st Marine Core Support Unit 3rd Marine Core Infantry Unit
2nd Marine Elite Division 4th Marine Core Infantry Unit
3rd Marine Elite Divisions 5th Marine Core Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 1st Army Ranger Infantry Unit 2nd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 3rd Army Ranger Infantry Unit 4th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 5th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Army Elite Division 6th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 7th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 8th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 9th Army Ranger Infantry Unit 10th Army Ranger Infantry Unit
1st Artillery Division 1st M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 2nd M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit 1st M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit 2nd M109A6 Paladin Self-Propelled Artillery Unit
1st Anti-Aircraft Division 1st M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 2nd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 3rd M163 Vulcan Anti-Aircraft Unit 1st Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit 2nd Patriot Anti-Aircraft SAM Unit
USA invades Honduras.
This poor, run-down country stands no chance against a large invading force. They do try and resist, but the attempt at doing so fails.
MISSION: SUCCESSFUL
CASUALTIES: lost: 4th Army Ranger Infantry Unit (jungle) lost: 5th Army Ranger Infantry Unit (street fighting) lost: 2nd M270 MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit (ambushed) 1/2 damage: 2nd M113 Mechanized Infantry Unit (ambushed)
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a little excessive ? 40c lost on a country with 35million expenditure and flat terrain
i lost one unit to guatemala...who has 4 times as much military and covered in mountains...
don't change it or anything, jsut pointing out bullshit when i see it
they could pay for 1.5 harriers every year, and they destroyed like 200million worth of equipment
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