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please list exactly which ships are engaging French ships
also the attack on the US fleet was no unprovoked, u were on route to attacking my ally so i had to stop you
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France calls for assitance of the German Navy, we are Islamic brothers and we must fight together to bring down the American Devil
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err..my blockade isnt even there anymore...they are all back at my 2 carriers, off the coast of Agusta (all in my template...and you can't capture trade ships...so down went your idea....
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Fighter please don't resolve the American attack until i get back i have to get off the net right now but will write an attack when i get back on in a couple hours.
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he can't do the outcome yet anyways...i still have to write defence, in which i have 163 credits to use (160 from 31 and 32, but since i can only use half of them its 80 then +80 for turn 33 and i had 6 other credits left over which i can use 3 of, so it equals 163), since posted the very last minute of turn 33 no way i could have posted my responce to it then,
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I dont get why you watse your fleet on all these attacks??
The British Navy Response
As this is one carrier group attacking me, which consists of:
Air
1x Nimitz Class Nuclear Super Carrier
2x F/A-18 Super Hornet Naval Fighter/Attack Unit
1x F-14D Tomcat Naval Fighter Unit
1x SH-60L SeaHawk Anti-Sub/Ship Naval Chopper Unit
1x Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruiser
1x Kidd Class Destroyer
1x Arleigh Burke Class Missile Destroyer
1x Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate
3x Virginia Class Nuclear Submarine
I have
Naval:
3 x Type 23 ‘Duke’ Class Frigate
5 x Type 22 ‘Broadsword’ Class Frigate
1 x Type 22 ‘Broadsword’ Class Frigate
1 x Type 42 ‘Sheffield’ Class Destroyer
1 x Type 42 ’Manchester’ Class Destroyer
4 x ’Upholder’ Class Diesel Attack Submarines
1 x ’Ocean’ Class Helicopter Carrier
2 x Merlin HM Anti-Ship/Submarine Naval Helicopter Unit
1 x ‘Ark Royal’ Class Super Carrier
4 x Sea Harrier FA2 Naval VTOL Fighter/Attack Unit
Air
1st Air - Kent (just south of London)
3 x Tornado F3 Fighter Unit
3 x Jaguar GR3 Attack Unit
4 x Eurofighter Typhoon Fighter/Attack Unit
Bomber Command - Kent (just south of London)
2 x Vulcan B3 Strategic Bomber Units
Note this is also how my forces are dispatched in response
I don’t care how good your 2 upgraded units are your surface fleet has to battle this:
The 4 Vessels of the US surface fleet as the approach British waters are intercepted by 11 Vessels of the fleet, whether you have 2 fancy ships or not I almost have treble your surface ships. Supported by 3 Jaguar attack planes and 2 Vulcan Bombers
These are backed close behind by the 2 carriers.
The 3 Diesel Attack Submarines and 2 Merlin HM Anti-Ship/Submarine Naval Helicopter Units go after the US 3 Virginia Class Nuclear Submarine who have been tracked for many miles.
Supported by inland RADAR the 3 planes are faced by 4 Naval harriers, 3 long range Tornadoes Fighters, 4 Eurofighters outfitted for pure air to air roles.
Surface fleet:
US: 4
UK: 11 supported by 3 attack planes.
Planes
US: 3
UK: 9 (12-3) – supported by RADAR
Subs:
US: 3
UK: 4
Anti Sub Helicopters:
US: 1 – wouldn’t get far in all that UK air superiority
UK: 2 – Free range with air superiority supported by 3 subs.
Total US: 11
Total UK: 29
2.636r time the amount of units the US sent.
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I refuse to let you attack my major trading pards and get away with it
4x Brandenburg Class Frigate (North Sea)
1x Bremen Class Frigate (North Sea)
1x Albatros Class Missile Patrol Boat (North Sea)
1x Gepard Class Missile Patrol Boat (North Sea)
4x Lutjens Class Frigate (north sea)
3x Molders Class Frigate (North Sea)
7x Eurofighter 'Puma' Fighter Unit
7x BR 1150 Atlantic Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit
2x BO-105N Naval Anti-Ship/Anti-Submarine Helicopter Unit
Defend britian from the invading US Navy
German Fleet meets up with the british navy to help fight off the united states
Air
1x Nimitz Class Nuclear Super Carrier
2x F/A-18 Super Hornet Naval Fighter/Attack Unit
1x F-14D Tomcat Naval Fighter Unit
1x SH-60L SeaHawk Anti-Sub/Ship Naval Chopper Unit
Sea:
1x Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruiser
1x Kidd Class Destroyer
1x Arleigh Burke Class Missile Destroyer
1x Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate
3x Virginia Class Nuclear Submarine
the german units arrive during the fighting. the first shots from the german fleet are anti air weapons firing off at american planes sending them to a watery grave, all ships move in and fire on the oposing ships, the bremen frigate fires its anti sub weapons on the subs and anti ship/sub patrol units fly above striking the british fleet (guarded by fighters). the battle finally ends when the final american cruiser is struck, its a massacre.
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Air units
5x AMX-1 Fighter/Attack Units
4x M.B.326K Attack/Fighter
2x G.222SV Airborne Early Warning Unit
1x AB 212 Naval Anti-Ship/Anti-Submarine Helicopter Unit
-(based on Vittorio Veneto Class Helicopter Cruiser)
2x AMX-1N Naval Fighter Unit
-(based on 1st Giuseppe Garibaldi Class Carrier)
2x M.B.339KN Naval Attack Unit
-(based on 2nd Giuseppe Garibaldi Class Carrier)
2x M.B.339KN Naval Attack Unit-Agusta
2x AB 212 Naval Anti-Ship/Anti-Submarine Helicopter Unit-Agusta
Navy
3x?Durand de la Penne? Class Destroyer-Gaurd Carrier
1x ? Vittorio Veneto? Class Helicopter Cruiser Gaurd Carrier
2x ?Cassiopea? Class Patrol Boat-Garud Carrier
1x ’Lupo’ Class Frigate-Gaurd Carrier
2x ?Giuseppe Garibaldi? Class Carrier-off coast of Augusta
2x ?Salvatore Pelosi? Class Diesel Attack Submarine- Gaurd Carrier
2x ’Audace’ Class Destroyer
2x Maestrale’ Class Frigate
3x ’Primo Longobardo’ Class Diesel Attack Submarine
My Radar Station in Rome picks up planes on the scope, in respose 1 early warning aircraft is sent in responce, and once seeing what was ahead radioed back to arm the forces.
the 3x AMX-1 Fighter/Attack Units are very fast and monverable they try to draw some of the anti air fire from the ships to give time for my ships and anti ship planes/copters to move in for the kill, my subs persuit his subs a little bit, but then focuses on the carriers
the 2x ?Cassiopea? Class Patrol Boats go after the American Trade ships still in the Med. Sea
( big mistake having all your trade running through here and actually attacking here ![[Smile]](smile.gif) )
i have 1 Air Research done and 2 Communications Satilites in Orbit
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Turn 33 the Argentine Navy Helps the USA against Europe.
Argentine Navy:
Three La Argentina Carriers
Six 'Hercules' Destroyers
Three Durmmond Corvettes
Two Santa Cruz D.P.A. Subs
Ten Super Etendard Naval F/A
One Nimitz Class N.P.S.C.
One 'Almirante Brown' Class Frigate
One SH-60 ‘Seahawk’ ASSN
Four ’Lumbarto’ Class Landing Ships
Three 'Bernado' Class Frigates
Argentine Airforce:
One Super Etendard Naval F/A
One A-4 Sky Hawk Naval F/A
Upgrades.
One Level Naval Unit Upgrade
One Level Air Unit Upgrade
The Argentine Fleet is to Help out in the Norhtern War against Brittian. The Whole force is to meet up with the Americans in roote and proceed with them to attack Brittian. The Corvettes and Santa Cruz subs are to attack the Enemy subs and sink as many as possible. The Anti-sub Helicopter is to help them. The Argentine Aircraft is to try and help the Americans achieve air superiority and then proceded to attack the enemy ships. The First units they are to destroy are the enemy Anti-Sub Helicopters. While the Destroyers will provide light air cover. The Almirante Brown frigate is to closely gaurd the Carriers and attack any enemy ships or aorcraft in range. The Bernando frigates are to attack the enemy subs and Ships with support from the Hercules Destroyers once the air battle is under way. If any of the subs survive the under sea battle they are to hunt Brittish Carriers first and then otherships. If the fleet survives the fleet is to turn south to help in the Battle against the Italian French combined fleets.
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i know im not a mod anymore but i have to comment and say this is easily a european victory
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When ancient Rome was near defeat,
the invincible Tenth Legion was raised:
they beat the barbarians on the battlefield
and Rome gained peace with honour again.
When the traitor, on September the eighth,
left the fatherland in infamy,
the Tenth Flotilla was raised from the sea
and it brought weapons at the cry for honour!
Oh our Tenth Flotilla,
you that mocked England,
you victorious on Alexandria,
Malta, Souda and Gibraltar,
you already victorious upon the sea,
now even on the dry land
you will win!
To you Italian ships, stolen from us
not in battle but by treason,
and to you, our prisoners and dead brothers,
we swear:
we swear that we'll came back,
let this be God's and the Flag's will.
We swear that we'll fight
until we obtain an honourable peace!
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The remainding ASW planes are instructed to sink the 6 trade ships (USA) in the medditereanean
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HELLO HELLO
I'm going to give USA and anyone else the chance to turn their fleets around and not enter this fight. However, if USA turns his fleet around, Europe may still go after him.
I'll wait to see what USA says. He may want to beg for mercy, or bribe the European countries to leave him be.
If USA still decides to continue with this I'll do the outcome.
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i may not speak for everyone, but it would have to be a pretty good bribe
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French Fleet and French Air Force counter-attack Americans
French Naval Units
--'FMN Le Victoire' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Zinedine Zidane' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Louis Pasteur' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Charlemagne' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Georges Charpak' 'Lafayette' Class Frigate
--'FMN Le Liberté' ’Georges Leygues’ Class Destroyer
--'FMN Jean Reno' ’Suffren’ Class Destroyer
--'FMN Charles De Gualle' ’Charles De Gualle’ Class Nuclear Powered Carrier
--'FMN Georges Carpentier' ’Clemenceau’ Class Aircraft Carrier
--'FMN Paris' ’Slava’ Class Missile Cruiser
--'FMN Le Bonaparte' ’Amethyste’ Class Nuclear Powered Attack Submarine
'Naval Air Defense' Based on Carrier FMN Charles De Gualle
--Super Etendard Naval Attack/Fighter Unit
--Super Etendard Naval Attack/Fighter Unit
--Rafale M Naval Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale M Naval Fighter/Attack Unit
'Naval Air Defense' Based on Carrier FMN Georges Carpentier
--SA 321 ’Super Frelon’ Naval Anti-Ship/Submarine Helicopter Unit
--SA 321 ’Super Frelon’ Naval Anti-Ship/Submarine Helicopter Unit
French Airforce
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
--Mirage F1 CT Attack/Fighter Unit
--Mirage 2000-5F Fighter Unit
--Mirage 2000 B Fighter Unit
--Mirage 2000 D Attack Unit
--Mirage 2000 D Attack Unit
--Mirage 2000 D Attack Unit
--Mirage IVP Strike Bomber Unit
--Mirage IVP Strike Bomber Unit
--C-160G AWACS Early Warning Unit
The French Navy and Airforce work together to counter-attack the attacking American Fleet. The French Navy and Airforce is on alert status as the American fleet attacks, since the Americans attacked the Italians first, the French know that they will be next attacked by this tyrnical country.
Naval Stategy
The 4 ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate and 1 ’Suffren’ Class Destroyer protect the Charles De Gualle Class Aircraft Carrier and the ’Clemenceau’ Class Aircraft Carrier. The 'Lafayette' Class Frigate, Leygues’ Class Destroyer , ’Slava’ Class Missile Cruiser, and ’Amethyste’ Class Nuclear Powered Attack Submarine engage any enemy ships trying to attack the fleet.
From the Charles De Gualle Class Aircraft Carrier take off 2 Super Etendard Naval Attack/Fighter Unit and 2 Rafale M Naval Fighter/Attack Unit. The Super Etendard Naval Attack/Fighter do not engage the enemy ships until the ships are close enough to attack French Ships. The Rafale M Naval Fighter/Attack Unit engage any American Planes that take off of the carrier
The 2 SA 321 ’Super Frelon’ Naval Anti-Ship/Submarine Helicopter Unit also protect the French fleet from American Ships/Subs.
The Air Strategy
A C-160G AWACS Early Warning Unit flies high above the fighting and sends data to the French Navy and Air Force. 8 Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit protect the French Navy from air attack and they also engage any ships that they come across. 1 Mirage F1 CT Attack/Fighter Unit and 3 Mirage 2000 D Attack Unit focus only on attacking enemy ships that engage French Ships. 1 Mirage 2000-5F Fighter Unit and 1 Mirage 2000 B Fighter Unit fly along with the Rafale C's and engange enemy aircraft. 2 Mirage IVP Strike Bomber Unit fly at a high altitude and they drop laser persicion bombs onto targets in the American Fleet.
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you guys remember that attack on my fleet on turn 15.
because you had said "surprise attack" my cruiser never had a chance agains 2 subs that together only cost as much as it does.
(oh and that was an unprovoked attack on me. i wasnt attacking anyone, i was helping a country that me for help defending his home from a completely unprovoked attack.)
and Teapot, dont tell me your ships werent in the blockade still, cause i checked to make sure. If you changed your template AFTER you saw my attack, thats just cheating.
oh, and i wasnt capturing trade ships to use them, but to give them back to you if you wanted peace (i had no beef with you, just needed to get past your blockade to get to the French)
why do you guys assume you can use your land based airforces in the defences?
A. it'll take em time to get to the fighting (enough time for the torpedoes from my subs to sink the lot of your ships)
B. they have nothing to base off of.
i aint attacking your shores or anything, this is all far out to see so i dont think you should be able to use you non-navalbased aircraft.
Mason, its nice to see how fast you switch sides (note for next game: dont trust mason). 3 turns ago you were sure that the europe allience is gonna turn on you and so attacked firts (blackmailing israel to give you the NUKES to use on your own allies).
it seems that France/Italy/England didnt realy mind having an ally of their's eliminated and are still all buddy-buddy with Germany.
i wont retract the attack even if you guys ARE allowed to use your land based airforce (in which case i know i'm dead). I'm tired of every single attack in this game being retracted.
as far as the naval fights. i think i should win most of it (especialy the english side) cause the torpedoes that my subs launch before you have a clue i'm even there kill half your puny fleet.
and it IS a surprise since none of you had orders to "watch for an attack" or anything of that sort. and that WAS the reason i was given for my cruiser getting killed by 2 outdated subs(turn 15).
maybe i should have gone after you guys one at a time, but i'm going away for the weekend so i wouldn't have had time for it.
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Ummm even if they are land based they can always land on carriers or friendly nations once theyre done plus even if they cant use land based ones the British have a navy almost 3 times the size of yours plus theres the French, Germans and Italians in there so you're basically outnumbered 6-1....
Results?
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interersting, im blackmailing the leading credit maker now!
 <---kill the infidels!!!
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besides, the eurofighter max speed is 2100+, tell me again that i wouldnt be able to make it in time...
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Ummm even if they are land based they can always land on carriers
that has to be the DUMBEST thing i have EVER heard.
what do you think is the point of having a limit to how many air units can be on a carrier? you think that if it says "can carry 4 air units" that means that you could have 4 on the carrier and 4 in the air and "rotating them"?
dont stick your nose where it dont belong.
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interersting, im blackmailing the leading credit maker now!
yes. his whole income is his trade. you threaten his trade (which aint very well defended) and he'll do anything you want, Including give you free reign with his nukes. when fighter first posted that he was letting you use the nuke subs, i believe his exact words were:
"Israel has no clue what Germany wants the nuke subs for...."
when i had asked him to use the 2 attack (not nuke) subs i sold him, he said he would need to know what i was using them for. i realy doubt that he'd just give you the nuke subs out of the goodness of his heart.
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Ummm even if they are land based they can always land on carriers
that has to be the DUMBEST thing i have EVER heard.
what do you think is the point of having a limit to how many air units can be on a carrier? you think that if it says "can carry 4 air units" that means that you could have 4 on the carrier and 4 in the air and "rotating them"?
dont stick your nose where it dont belong.
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interersting, im blackmailing the leading credit maker now!
yes. his whole income is his trade. you threaten his trade (which aint very well defended) and he'll do anything you want, Including give you free reign with his nukes. when fighter first posted that he was letting you use the nuke subs, i believe his exact words were:
"Israel has no clue what Germany wants the nuke subs for...."
when i had asked him to use the 2 attack (not nuke) subs i sold him, he said he would need to know what i was using them for. i realy doubt that he'd just give you the nuke subs out of the goodness of his heart.
the name of the game is politics, good game roddy
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besides, the eurofighter max speed is 2100+, tell me again that i wouldnt be able to make it in time...
immagive it like this.....
the subs launch the torpedoes at the ships. at this point the ships realized that they are under attack and lets assume the FIRST thing they do is call you and tell you to send your fighter jets over. now lets also assume that all your fighter pilots spend the WHOLE day EVERY day in the cockpits of the fighters and can take off all at once.
then it will STILL take them longer to get to the battle field then it will take the torpedoes to hit their targets.
then when the DO make it to the scene of battle. they shoot off their weapon loads, and have to go ALL the way back to god knows where to reload and flying back and forth also refuel. Where as my airunits , take off, shoot down a bunch of yours, land on the carrier, reload, take off.....rince and repeat.
Thats what i mean by "i dont see how you can use your Land based Airforce"
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[QUOTE]]yes. his whole income is his trade. you threaten his trade (which aint very well defended) and he'll do anything you want, Including give you free reign with his nukes. when fighter first posted that he was letting you use the nuke subs, i believe his exact words were:
"Israel has no clue what Germany wants the nuke subs for...."
when i had asked him to use the 2 attack (not nuke) subs i sold him, he said he would need to know what i was using them for. i realy doubt that he'd just give you the nuke subs out of the goodness of his heart.
"if you dont retract your raid ill nuke you out of the game"
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besides, the eurofighter max speed is 2100+, tell me again that i wouldnt be able to make it in time...
immagive it like this.....
the subs launch the torpedoes at the ships. at this point the ships realized that they are under attack and lets assume the FIRST thing they do is call you and tell you to send your fighter jets over. now lets also assume that all your fighter pilots spend the WHOLE day EVERY day in the cockpits of the fighters and can take off all at once.
then it will STILL take them longer to get to the battle field then it will take the torpedoes to hit their targets.
then when the DO make it to the scene of battle. they shoot off their weapon loads, and have to go ALL the way back to god knows where to reload and flying back and forth also refuel. Where as my airunits , take off, shoot down a bunch of yours, land on the carrier, reload, take off.....rince and repeat.
Thats what i mean by "i dont see how you can use your Land based Airforce"
im almost positive that 4000 kg of fuel is plenty
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HELLO HELLO
Those land based air units MAY be used at a battle out to sea; however, NOT A SINGLE PLANE WILL SURVIVE. They will do damage to the enemy, but not one will make it out alive since it will use it's fuel getting out to the battle and fighting, and will not have enough to get back to land.
Change you posts if you want to save you land airforce!
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HELLO HELLO
Would you rather I make it that you can't send those units out to battle at sea without a aircraft carrier?
Carriers are there for a reason. If I let you guys fly around the world attacking wherever you want, then what is the point of having them? They would just be a waste of 50 or however many credits.
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they are right fighter
modern aircraft can fly very far
they also have 'Drop Tanks' which are fuel tanks carried under the wings
if any nation loses ANY patrol, bomber or ASW unit becauase "they run out of fuel" they is bullshit
ASW planes are designed specifically to fly for many many hundreds of miles (900+) and spend hours over the ocean
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When ancient Rome was near defeat,
the invincible Tenth Legion was raised:
they beat the barbarians on the battlefield
and Rome gained peace with honour again.
When the traitor, on September the eighth,
left the fatherland in infamy,
the Tenth Flotilla was raised from the sea
and it brought weapons at the cry for honour!
Oh our Tenth Flotilla,
you that mocked England,
you victorious on Alexandria,
Malta, Souda and Gibraltar,
you already victorious upon the sea,
now even on the dry land
you will win!
To you Italian ships, stolen from us
not in battle but by treason,
and to you, our prisoners and dead brothers,
we swear:
we swear that we'll came back,
let this be God's and the Flag's will.
We swear that we'll fight
until we obtain an honourable peace!
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Originally posted by -dkumral600-:
i believe that ships have SONAR and RADAR capabilities so they will know that an attack is coming before ur first torpedo is launched ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
if you explain why that same logic wasnt applied to the attack on my fleet on turn 15, then you can TRY to use it in this defence
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the subs launch the torpedoes at the ships. at this point the ships realized that they are under attack and lets assume the FIRST thing they do is call you and tell you to send your fighter jets over. now lets also assume that all your fighter pilots spend the WHOLE day EVERY day in the cockpits of the fighters and can take off all at once.
then it will STILL take them longer to get to the battle field then it will take the torpedoes to hit their targets.
ERR UM NO
Ever hear of the Nixie Torpedo Decoy System? how about the AGGP-23 Decoy Sytem? Didn't think so... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
OWNAGE
UR PWNT~!~!~
Land Based Planes CAN EASILY make it over the north atlantic and english channel!
hey faggots if little world war 2 spitfire and me-109 propeller fighters can do it SO CAN modern day jet and turbo-prop aircraft
PWNT !~@~!@$
![[Razz]](tongue.gif) HAHAHAHHAHA
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When ancient Rome was near defeat,
the invincible Tenth Legion was raised:
they beat the barbarians on the battlefield
and Rome gained peace with honour again.
When the traitor, on September the eighth,
left the fatherland in infamy,
the Tenth Flotilla was raised from the sea
and it brought weapons at the cry for honour!
Oh our Tenth Flotilla,
you that mocked England,
you victorious on Alexandria,
Malta, Souda and Gibraltar,
you already victorious upon the sea,
now even on the dry land
you will win!
To you Italian ships, stolen from us
not in battle but by treason,
and to you, our prisoners and dead brothers,
we swear:
we swear that we'll came back,
let this be God's and the Flag's will.
We swear that we'll fight
until we obtain an honourable peace!
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all your fighter pilots spend the WHOLE day EVERY day in the cockpits of the fighters and can take off all at once
EERRM UM modern military aircraft can be ready within minutes
care to be owned anymore?
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When ancient Rome was near defeat,
the invincible Tenth Legion was raised:
they beat the barbarians on the battlefield
and Rome gained peace with honour again.
When the traitor, on September the eighth,
left the fatherland in infamy,
the Tenth Flotilla was raised from the sea
and it brought weapons at the cry for honour!
Oh our Tenth Flotilla,
you that mocked England,
you victorious on Alexandria,
Malta, Souda and Gibraltar,
you already victorious upon the sea,
now even on the dry land
you will win!
To you Italian ships, stolen from us
not in battle but by treason,
and to you, our prisoners and dead brothers,
we swear:
we swear that we'll came back,
let this be God's and the Flag's will.
We swear that we'll fight
until we obtain an honourable peace!
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Originally posted by -gbotto600-:
they are right fighter
modern aircraft can fly very far
they also have 'Drop Tanks' which are fuel tanks carried under the wings
if any nation loses ANY patrol, bomber or ASW unit becauase "they run out of fuel" they is bullshit
ASW planes are designed specifically to fly for many many hundreds of miles (900+) and spend hours over the ocean
yes and IIRC(thought i proly exagerate) most modern fighter planes can go around the world more then once on the fuel they carry.
why does the USA in real life have carriers?
explain that.
why do they ask/bribe other countries to use their airfields in places like the middle east?
why not just fly em from the US? they got the fuel.
why not make a base in some one country in the middle east and use it for ALL thier operations?
answer those.
but more important then all of that is:
THIS IS A GAME and CARRIERS have to have a use.
the logical solution is NO land based planes may be used in naval battles. if you're getting invaded thats a different thing, then its on your shores.
this whole thing is in the sea/ocean. (and i dont care if you think your ships were/are 2 feet from the shore)
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all you guys keep wanting to use real world capabilities of the units.
this is a game.
if everyone in the world declared war on france and britain, would they then not be able to use ANY of their units except infantry? cause they would have no oil.
that's what would happen in the REAL world where your fighters can get to the batte.
but again THIS IS A GAME.
stop appying real world statistics to the situations where it helps you.
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ERR UM NO
Ever hear of the Nixie Torpedo Decoy System? how about the AGGP-23 Decoy Sytem? Didn't think so...
you are absolutely right, i have NOT heard of either of those.
i assume they are defences that ships have agains torpedoes.
why didnt you bring this up when my fleet got sunk by 2 cheap as broken down british subs on turn 15?
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EERRM UM modern military aircraft can be ready within minutes
care to be owned anymore?
modern military also has AIRBASES specificaly for those fighters.
i dont think ANY of europe has a single airbase (cause your rules made them so useless) so i guess they are using commercial airports. there aint no way in hell they can all be 'ready' at a commercial airport.
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i think i'm batting 5 for 5 so far.
care to present any more arguments?
and still the most significant one is:
THIS IS A GAME.
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Flooding is not needed
[ October 12, 2002, 05:16: Message edited by: Teapot ]
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Originally posted by RoddyVR:
and Teapot, dont tell me your ships werent in the blockade still, cause i checked to make sure. If you changed your template AFTER you saw my attack, thats just cheating.
oh, and i wasnt capturing trade ships to use them, but to give them back to you if you wanted peace (i had no beef with you, just needed to get past your blockade to get to the French)
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well you didnt check very well then, cause they all went to gaurd the carriers off the coast of Agusta on turn 30
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Originally posted by Shagi_Fighter:
HELLO HELLO
Those land based air units MAY be used at a battle out to sea; however, NOT A SINGLE PLANE WILL SURVIVE. They will do damage to the enemy, but not one will make it out alive since it will use it's fuel getting out to the battle and fighting, and will not have enough to get back to land.
Change you posts if you want to save you land airforce!
that is kinda harsh, expecialy france and italy, which is were most of the fighting seems to be, with our coast right there there is no way that the planes would simply "run out of gas" before they could reach land and refeul
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yeah its pointless to play this if u say that we cannot be realistic, like if u say that my planes cannot go out onto the French Coast to counterattack the attacking americans
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I would like to make a couple major point for all of you guys trying to use real life examples in this game.
This game really far from reality. All most all your cool planes are made up. The Argentine and German fleets are made up. Botto only has a few ships with radar and sonar capability listed when in real life almost every ship in active service has this devices. Germany in the game has a higher gnp then America. America does not have the nukes it has in real life.
This is a game if this was real life america would have you all schooled. So suck it up and take the results fighter gives you.
And i don't back out of my attack. I am in this for the long run no matter what the end results. I am backing my ally to the Hilt.
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Originally posted by -gbotto600-:
they are right fighter
modern aircraft can fly very far
they also have 'Drop Tanks' which are fuel tanks carried under the wings
if any nation loses ANY patrol, bomber or ASW unit becauase "they run out of fuel" they is bullshit
ASW planes are designed specifically to fly for many many hundreds of miles (900+) and spend hours over the ocean
thank you botto
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HELLO HELLO
I'm seriously thinking about nuking ALL of you so I don't have to do this outcome
We can't base this game completely on realistics. Like on movement rules for land units. I think it used to be, maybe still is, that land units can only move one country at a time. Well you got a country like Israel, and you got a massive country like Russia. Would it be realistic that it takes one turn to move across each country?
What would be realistic is if we were able to rate each unit by miles. However, we all know that it would be WAY TOO COMPLICATED. And no one is going to take that time to measure our how many miles it takes to get to a certain country.
We also got trade trips that can go anywhere in the world and back in one turn. How realistic is that? The list goes on and on and on. And like Dem said about America. If we played realistically USA would be making 100 credits daily at the start, followed by China which would have 40 some credits, and all the way down to 1 credit for Iraq and Iran.
Also, I can't please all sides in this debate. If I make a ruling that helps out the USA, then the rest of you bitch and come up with all this stuff. And it goes the other way to if I make a ruling to help Europe.
I'm prb the most unbias person in this whole thing. I got major trade with USA and Italy, and Great Britain always gives me good deals on units. So I'd hate to see either side wiped out of the game at the moment.
For this attack for now I'm sticking to my ruling about land air units, since USA is NOT invading your country.
NEW PLAN
Since this is so damn sickening seriously, and because I don't have a fair way of doing this outcome at the moment I'm going to do this. Great Britain, France, Italy, and anyone else may take there Navy's back to their shores where they can be protected by their land airforce. A big storm comes and knocks the USA and Argentina fleets off course. They must return to their homeland.
RoddyVR is on vacation. So no one is allowed to attack him until he gets back. Everyone will continue on with the Days. So no one is stuck on Day 34 or whenever this attack happened. Argentina will remain nuetral for a few days too.
I know this seems harsh, but until I get some rules set in STONE we will not be attacking each other by sea. I'll be talking to people about this, and hope that people leave ideas. I don't want to see some completely biased unfair rules being made either.
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Turn 35
(Since fighter said that the US attack would be in effect canceled, i am guessing i am allowed to attack a nation again)
France Invades Spain!
French Army
-13x Leclerc Tank Unit
-1x AMX-30B2 Tank Unit
-2x AMX-10RC Unit
-1x Armored Recon Unit
-3x AMX-10P Mech. Infantry Unit
-15x VAB Mechanized Infantry Unit
-2x Paratrooper Infantry Unit
-1x AMX-10P HOT Anti-Tank Unit
-3x AMX-10 Roland Anti-Aircraft Missile Unit
-1 xVAB T-20 Anti-Aircraft Unit
-3x Towed Artillery Unit
-4x LRM MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit
French Airforce
-8x Rafale C Fighter/Attack Unit
-1x Mirage F1 CT Attack/Fighter Unit
-1x Mirage 2000-5F Fighter Unit
-1x Mirage 2000 B Fighter Unit
-3x Mirage 2000 D Attack Unit
-2x Mirage IVP Strike Bomber Unit
-2x C-160 Transall Air Transport Unit
-1x C-160G AWACS Early Warning Unit
-4x SA 400 ‘Tiger’ Attack Helicopter Unit
French Navy
--'FMN Le Victoire' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Zinedine Zidane' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Louis Pasteur' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Charlemagne' ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate
--'FMN Georges Charpak' 'Lafayette' Class Frigate
--'FMN Le Liberté' ’Georges Leygues’ Class Destroyer
--'FMN Jean Reno' ’Suffren’ Class Destroyer
--'FMN Charles De Gualle' ’Charles De Gualle’ Class Nuclear Powered Carrier
--'FMN Georges Carpentier' ’Clemenceau’ Class Aircraft Carrier
--'FMN Paris' ’Slava’ Class Missile Cruiser
--'FMN Le Bonaparte' ’Amethyste’ Class Nuclear Powered Attack Submarine
French Naval Airforce
'Naval Air Defense' Based on Carrier FMN Charles De Gualle
-2x Super Etendard Naval Attack/Fighter Unit
-2x Rafale M Naval Fighter/Attack Unit
'Naval Air Defense' Based on Carrier FMN Georges Carpentier
-2x SA 321 ’Super Frelon’ Naval Anti-Ship/Submarine Helicopter Unit
The Attack
Ground Attack
In a suprise attack the French Army crosses the Southern border into Spain. 1 Armoored Recon Unit goes ahead and spots all enemy units. The 13 Leclerc Tank Units, 1 AMX-30B2 Tank Unit, and 2 AMX-10RC Unit engage all Spanish Tanks and Armored Vehicles. The tanks are escorted by air power from SA 400 ‘Tiger’ Attack Helicopter Unit which use advanced anti-tank systems. 3 AMX-10P Mech. Infantry Unit and 15 AMX-10P Mech. Infantry Units engage all Spanish infantry troops. 2 Paratrooper Units are dropped off from C-130s into Madrid and they fight off all guards in the capitol. The frontlines of the attack are well assisted with artillery. 1 AMX-10P HOT Anti-Tank Unit, 3 AMX-10 Roland Anti-Aircraft Missile Unit, 1 VAB T-20 Anti-Aircraft Unit, 3 Towed Artillery Unit, and 4 LRM MLRS Rocket Artillery Unit protect the French Tanks, APC's, and Infantry from enemy attack.
The Ground forces pass the border and move through the following cities:
Zaragoza
Valladolid
Sallamanca
Madrid
Cordoba
Sevilla
The Air Attack
The French planes cross the Southern border into France and engage any enemy aircraft trying to attack the French ground forces. 1 C-160G AWACS Early Warning Unit gives the French a bird's eye view of the battle. 8 Rafale C's, 1 Mirage F1 CT, 1 Mirage 2000-5F Fighter, 1 Mirage 2000 B Fighter Unit focus mainly on engaging enemy aircraft. 3 Mirage 2000 D Attack Units focus on attacking enemy ground forces that are engaging French forces. 2 Mirage IVP Strike Bomber Unit bomb the following cities before the ground forces attack them:
Zaragoza
Valladolid
Sallamanca
Madrid
Cordoba
Sevilla
The Naval Attack
The 4 ’D’Estienne D’Orves’ Class Frigate and 1 ’Suffren’ Class Destroyer protect the Charles De Gualle Class Aircraft Carrier and the ’Clemenceau’ Class Aircraft Carrier. The 'Lafayette' Class Frigate, Leygues’ Class Destroyer , ’Slava’ Class Missile Cruiser, and ’Amethyste’ Class Nuclear Powered Attack Submarine engage any enemy ships in the path of the fleet.
From the Charles De Gualle Class Aircraft Carrier take off 2 Super Etendard Naval Attack/Fighter Unit and 2 Rafale M Naval Fighter/Attack Unit. The 2 Super Etendard Naval Attack/Fighter engage enemy ships that are close to the fleet. The 2 Rafale M Naval Fighter/Attack Unit engage any Spanish Planes that try to attack the fleet.
The 2 SA 321 ’Super Frelon’ Naval Anti-Ship/Submarine Helicopter Unit also protect the French fleet from Spanish Ships/Subs.
The Fleet moves from the Mediterranea Sea, through Gibraltar, to the Atlantic coast of France where they dock, on this journey they attack all Spanish ships that are in range.
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HELLO HELLO
I know you guys think it makes you armies look bigger and stronger when you got 10 Infantry Units, but instead of doing something like "10x Infantry Units" you do this:
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
I prefer it if you people STOP doing it like that because all it means is more work for me having to count all of them. If you keep doing that I may make a mistake in my counting, and therefore you may get a worse outcome.
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ooooooooooooooo sounds like blackmail
*raises Mosin-Nagant M1889 rifle into air*
fight the system!
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Originally posted by Shagi_Fighter:
HELLO HELLO
I know you guys think it makes you armies look bigger and stronger when you got 10 Infantry Units, but instead of doing something like "10x Infantry Units" you do this:
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
Infantry Unit
I prefer it if you people STOP doing it like that because all it means is more work for me having to count all of them. If you keep doing that I may make a mistake in my counting, and therefore you may get a worse outcome.
sorry i edited my post to make it easier for you, i hope u wont be harsh on it because of this ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Germany Invades Finland (36)
German Armed Forces:
Tank Divisions:
10x Leopard II A6 Tank Unit
3x Leopard II A5 Tank Units (one at50%)
Mechanized Infantry Divisions:
2x Jaeger Mechanized Infantry Unit
3x Marder Mechanized Infantry Unit
9x Panther Mechanized Infantry Unit
Other Ground Divisions:
11x Infantry Division
4x Army Recon Unit
3x LARS Rocket Artillary
6x Roland Anti-Aircraft Unit (one at 50%)
7x Jaguar II Anti-Tank Unit
German Navy:
4x Brandenburg Class Frigate
1x Bremen Class Frigate
1x Albatros Class Missile Patrol Boat (
1x Gepard Class Missile Patrol Boat
4x Lutjens Class Destroyer
3x Molders Class Frigate
3x Type 212A Diesel Attack Submarine
German Air Force:
Fighter/Attack Units:
3x Alpha jet FB Fighter/attack Unit
6x Eurofighter 'Lynx' Fighter/Attack Unit
Fighter Units:
4x F-4 Phantom II Fighter Units
2x Alpha Jet 2 F Fighter Unit
7x Eurofighter 'Puma' Fighter Unit
Anti-Ship/Sub Units:
2x BO-105N Naval Anti-Ship/Anti-Submarine Helicopter Unit
7x BR 1150 Atlantic Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit
Other units:
1x BO-105P Attack Helicopter Unit
1x A310 AEW AWACS Early Warning Aircraft Unit
All units move to northern sweden by ship and once planes reach the destination they refuel to prepare for their attack.
(ships are at thebaltic sea and ASW and all but the f-4s and alpha 2 fighters are in stockholm)
Invasion plans:
(both naval and air/ground attacks are simotaneous)
Naval Attack:
Units involved:[b]
German Navy:[i]
4x Brandenburg Class Frigate
1x Bremen Class Frigate
1x Albatros Class Missile Patrol Boat
1x Gepard Class Missile Patrol Boat
4x Lutjens Class Destroyer
3x Molders Class Frigate
3x Type 212A Diesel Attack Submarine
[i]Fighter Units:
7x Eurofighter 'Puma' Fighter Unit
Anti-Ship/Sub Units:
2x BO-105N Naval Anti-Ship/Anti-Submarine Helicopter Unit
7x BR 1150 Atlantic Anti-Ship/Submarine Patrol Unit
these units job is to clear all of the naval units and some fighters that pass by
all units move to the north eastern part of the baltic sea near helsinki
soon they are met with a large finnish force, with the german navy leading the attack the germans were leading slightly, but 9 ASW units come through (escorted by 7 eurofighter "pumas') the finnish fleet was totally massacred.
finnish jets come to the scene to attack ASWs, but by that time they all had began to return safely to sweden, instead they are welcomed by the dozens of BVRAAM and SRAAM missiles the eurofighters put out, its a short one sided battle.
[b]Land Attack
Units involved:
Tank Divisions:
10x Leopard II A6 Tank Unit
3x Leopard II A5 Tank Units (one at 50%)
Mechanized Infantry Divisions:
2x Jaeger Mechanized Infantry Unit
3x Marder Mechanized Infantry Unit
9x Panther Mechanized Infantry Unit
Other Ground Divisions:
11x Infantry Division
4x Army Recon Unit
3x LARS Rocket Artillary
6x Roland Anti-Aircraft Unit (one at 50%)
7x Jaguar II Anti-Tank Unit
Fighter/Attack Units:
3x Alpha jet FB Fighter/attack Unit
6x Eurofighter 'Lynx' Fighter/Attack Unit
Fighter Units:
4x F-4 Phantom II Fighter Units
2x Alpha Jet 2 F Fighter Unit
Other units:
1x BO-105P Attack Helicopter Unit
1x A310 AEW AWACS Early Warning Aircraft Unit
The job of these units is to move from the practically uninhabited north to the more heavily populated south, crushing all in thier way
The units seem to pass with ease through the north for a while, and are finally picked up with resistance around Oulu.
recon units A B C and D are sent forward to scope out incoming troops, in the mean time, tanks, rockets etc are demolishing the city of Oulu.
recon A (30 miles south of Oulu) and recon B (10 miles east of recon B catch sight of tank and armored infantry divisions heading north, recons report back to Oulu and units prepare for battle.
battle formation:
*- Tank divisions
^- anti tank missiles
@ - rockets
+ - anti air craft
7, 13, 11 14 ifv
^ ^ @ ^^ @ ^ ^
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as finnish tanks and IFVs move closer and closer, anti armor missiles are fired, then anti-armor missiles and tank missile loads are finally let loose along with lars rockets.
very soon all finnish units are destroyed extept for several inf divisions, then 6 panther IFS divisions come out of the west to clean up the mess.
the first and largest finnish resistance skirmish is over with a massive german victory.
all units push through these cities:
Kuopio
Varkaus
Tampere
lahiti
Kotka
and
loviisa with little resistance, air force units lead all attacks till units demolish loviisa.
whatever is left of the finnish army is in helsinki, which was on bombardment by naval units and the 9 pumas, the remainding air force meets up with the pumas and destroy the shit out of the city. when tank divisions and infantry push through, its like a giant nightmare for finalnd as helsinki falls in an hour.
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germany invades Lithuania (40)
5x Leopard II A6 Tank Unit
20x Infantry Units
1x Army Recon
7x Jaguar II anti tank
6x Roland AA unit (one at 50%)
3 LARS rocket artillary
3x brandenburg frigates
4x lutjens class destroyers
3x molders frigates
3x type 212a subs
6x eurofighter "lynx" F/A
Units plow through the southern borders, the naval units set out to crush the opposing navy and bombard the cities near the coast.
the inf units lead the attack with the tanks being escorted and the anti tanks and AA units in the back, to begin the assault, the LARS rockets let loose on any incoming forces and the recons scope out units coming, after a few small attacks, the units push through the capital and capture the country.
sorry cant post to much bout lithuania :-\
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Inquisitor Kenny
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Germany invades... what the fuck was it again?
Germany wins cause it's islam and islams are cool
losses: everything
other country: had nothing to lose
occoupation units: 2000
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Shagi_Fighter
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HELLO HELLO
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Nuclear War
Everyone must say where their units are at all times. This includes not only what country they are in, but what cities they are in also. Only cities on the CIA maps may be used. If you do not list where you ground units are, and you at hit with a High Power nuclear weapon, it will be assumed that ALL your units in that country are destroyed. If you don’t list what oceans you ships are in, and they are hit by a High Power nuclear weapon, then ALL your ships will be destroyed.
Israel lauches 2 HIGH POWER nuclear missiles. One hits the country of South Africa destroying ALL UNITS in that country. The second hits the South African Navy destroy ALL naval units.
4x Isra B-2 "Liberty" Stealth Bomber Units will fly over to the last countries left and drop bombs on whatever units are left. All that is left are a bunch of occupation infantry and two anti-tank units. Nothing that can attack bombers.
South Africa is defeated!
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Cloynez0r
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i think this shows how shitty a mod fighter was
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Shagi_Fighter
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HELLO HELLO
No, it's sweet revenge on you for blowing me off when I told you to fix your template.
Here is an interesting fact everyone should think about. Who has been defeated so far in this game? Iraq headed by Kenny was defeated. He had a shitty template. Sweden was defeated who also had a shitty template, but at least listed where his units were. Ukraine... I think his was alright at least. South Africa, headed by Blade, has been defeated because he has a shitty template.
What is the point of all this? To show that those who don't have the good templates, and don't put the time into the game, will NOT win.
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